As the foundation of any society, we recognise the supreme importance of a healthy farming community. Accordingly, we demand protection of the family farm by eliminating speculation in land and commodities, and by assuring a stable market and fair prices for the farmer, as well as the consumer. We further demand that qualified young Aryan couples be given an opportunity for mortgage-free homesteading on land now held by large corporate interests.
We believe that farming is more than a mere economic proposition, that in fact it represents a way of life vital to the community as a whole, and that its real value lies not only in producing food, but in providing social, racial, and environmental stability while serving as a constant source of spiritual renewal for man in close rapport with nature. Hence, we believe that a farmer's land and the fruits of his labour must remain inviolate and above commercial speculation and exploitation, just as the economic viability of the family farm must be re-established so that significantly larger numbers of our people can once again find a good life upon the land.
5. Motherhood And Family
We demand a strengthening of the family unit, as an indispensable cornerstone of a healthy Aryan society. Towards this goal, we further demand that Motherhood be elevated from the position of low esteem which it occupies today to a position where it is universally recognised as the noblest position to which any Aryan woman can aspire.
We believe that a sound and orderly society requires a stable family unit, with defined relationships between the sexes as well as between parent and child. We also believe that Aryan men and Aryan women have distinctive but complementary social roles to play, and that just as the man is the natural breadwinner and warrior, so the woman is the natural homemaker. We further recognise the importance of the unique role that Nature has assigned to the woman as the creator of the next generation of racial life, and consequently believe that a special degree of respect should be accorded to her as mother. Finally, we believe that the man, as head of the household, should be able to provided for his family without requiring his wife to abandon home and children in order to compete in the job market out of economic necessity.
6. A New Educational System
We demand the establishment of a new educational system which will place strong emphasis on the physical and moral development of our young people, as well as on the training of their mental abilities, and which will instill in every young Aryan an all-important set of racial values.
We believe that Aryan youth represents the future of our Race, and that in its fitness and ability lie our hopes for the future. Therefore, we believe that it is the duty of the state to see to the development of our young people in a thorough and well-rounded manner, recognising that in the long run a healthy mind can only dwell within a healthy body, and that along with the training of the intellect there must go rigorous physical and character training. We believe, finally, that an education can only be considered complete when it succeeds in burning into the heart and mind of the young Aryan the supreme importance of the racial idea.
Dan 88!
Dan, your no. 4 is beautifully written. I would never have thought the Nazis were really into farming to have a rapport with nature. I always thought they had to farm because their resources were so limited. I always thought the invasion into other countries was to rip off their resources to use it as their own because without that advancement it made the existence of the people uncertain. I think I got this impression from one of Hitler's speeches actually, perhaps I am mistaken. Well Dan if the Nazis are into environmental preservation then certain states like NC for example would not have to worry about the stripping of it's land because I'm sure you'd be into replenishing it and keeping it's natural beauty... unlike what some have tried to do this state here recently. So here's a question, what about pesticides vs natural. Would you be in favor of using more pesticides because there is a rise on certain pests that damage the crops. Reminder years ago they eliminated these same chemical sprays for environmental reasons. Also at the market home grown and organic costs more and so they say in recent studies are not all that better or even safer to eat.
ReplyDeleteDan, your no. 5 is just lovely also BUT I think you are teetering on the edge of inequality when you suggest that a female should not have to leave the house to become gainfully employed. Perhaps I take that the wrong way because it's so nicely worded. Maybe I should not venture into this too much because it does not apply to me. However, it would be remiss if I did not toss out some concerns about the ability of men to hold up their side. Studies show women outnumber the men and that men die earlier than females of a growing number of diseases. Are men really ready to hack it and take on that position as sole bread winner?
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Anyway the wording of this sort of makes me think the women is married to the house and not the man. It's kind of cold in a way because not all females fit the mold. Some can work outside the home as well as keep house and parent. If you are going to say "complimentary" then I think in today's world it would include more than just housewives but the working woman as well. If you notice women become bored at home thus you see all these military housewives getting on youtube to talk about how bored they are while their man is away.
I also think women let themselves go too much when they spend too much time at home. Have you seen these white women who are so large all they can wear is a T-shirt? It's good for them to get out and socialize to keep in touch with the real world vs this pretend your man will protect and safegaurd everything.
I think you will find more women skeptical of this than you will find enticed by it. So have you thought it thru to find out what happens if the man dies, who then will step up to the plate to provide? I know Nazis are not really in favor of a welfare program so wouldn't the next best solution be to have the women in a back up position to already be working or go to work. Are you in favor at all of women gaining skills to enter the workforce?
I suppose you may be right about the significance of motherhood, children and all that but there are certain types of women who do not fit the mold so shouldn't you sort of include a little something to say about those who work as well in this just to sound fair?
Let's say a little something pro careerist because I take it that NS are all about productivity when it comes down to it.
Dan, no. 6 is just perfect. You know if you start young you will have the perfect Nazi. However, if you watch the documentaries on Hitler youth they are always negative. Usually documentaries are somewhat balanced. I think the Nazis did a just about a perfect job with the youth. The only part that I would say that I didn't like was this old propaganda video of kids talking back at their parents. The youth were more militant and grew up faster with stricter demands on them but disrespecting your parents I would frown upon. I think you might agree with me on this IF it weren't for the fact that you are all gung ho with the NS ideology and think that someone else other than the parents have the right course for your children. In a way it's like taking the youth away from the child right out of your hands but again that's to be expected when adults give up some of their rights. I think some parental consent or parental right to withdraw a child should be inserted here or perhaps just cut out the part where the child can sass the parents. I think I would smack the child in the face. If I can locate the link to that specific video and also the documentary that I mentioned I will send you the link.
ReplyDeleteConservation is a high priority for us. Something must be left for the future. If not, the world will end up like Easter Island. Once it was a beautiful tropical island with 4,000 inhabitants. Then they deforested the entire island, and it is capable of supporting less than 1,000 people, unless they get outside assistance. If we did that to the entire world, then we'll become extinct.
ReplyDeleteInequality? In a way, perhaps. However, we have our roles in society. Sometimes people must do what is best for society, and not themselves. NS is about working for the good of the whole, and not the individual. Men and women are NOT interchangeable. Each has their role, and must do their duty for the greater good. If not, then things will eventually disintegrate - just like what's going on in this country right now. Without a strong family unit, without customs and traditions that cannot be broken on a whim, society cannot survive intact.
Read the credit list of those documentaries. Mostly Jews - at least with the directors, producers and writers - the ones who make all the decisions. A child must be taught values consistent with the well-being of society, and not how the parents see fit. A child must be taught how to fit in. If they aren't, they cannot become functioning members of that society.
Dan 88!
Dan, I am really impressed with the Nazis interest in nature conservancy. I wonder how much interest is devoted to this topic because it's easier said than done.
ReplyDeleteI do not think women will be comfortable being housewives only. They might as well be a piece of meat. I think this view of a woman's worth is oppressive and suppressive. I think it's a reversal of the rights that females currently have and will be met with great opposition. I think the one thing you want to achieve out of women which would be increase birthrate will backfire and women will not have any children at all because they will loathe men with this mindset.
ReplyDeleteDan, I guess if the situation was reversed, say for example it was the US schools teaching certain topics that you find unacceptable which btw I think you've posted an article on gay sex taught in schools on this board.. wouldn't you want to right to step in to say something about it? So I take it that you trust NS schools because they would never do anything that you might object to? I guess that's why it's Hitler youth because your child is not even your own anymore. I am quite different if I found something I objected to then I would voice my opinion. I am not going to be another one that goes with the flow but rather one that stays fully informed.
ReplyDeleteDan, you question why I used the word inequality? Can you not see why? The original Nazis were not even this way, take Hanna Reitsch and Leni Riefenstahl just to name two and those careers were advanced and those were female. A lot of women worked outside the home. I'm totally not getting why it is so important to stick women in the home? Why is it so important to keep a male monopoly on things? They taught is in college that Nazi men fear women because they feel inferior. I don't really think working women are the cause of the decline in birthrate. You say disintegrate, how so? I would think it would be the complete opposite of that to provide more structure and security to the family unit.
ReplyDeleteDan, I am not trying to pluck your last nerve today. I just feel someone has dropped the ball somewhere without enough documentation, information on why working women are shunned in favor of housewives? Well I have to be brutally honest here I probably just won't get this because all I've ever known is work. All I've ever done with my life is spend 9 years in college buried in books and work. I guess this means that I am a careerist. But I also have to say that I am very talented in other areas, love to fix up a house, interior decorate and do landscaping things of that sort too. In fact, I can do it all. There is very little that I can't do for myself so I've never had any need to rely on a male or anyone for that matter. I don't think that I am better than a male if that is what you are thinking. I never socialized because I had no time so my little knight in shining armor never came to me and I'm the old fashioned type so I don't go running to chase down men. I am totally unskilled in this area so that's why I say this housewife role doesn't even apply to me. So the I guess I'd be guilty of not reproducing and perhaps have missed out on the best. If this is your point, then well point well taken. However, if someone makes something of their life I don't think it's right to put the person down in fact IMO quite the opposite they should be praised for their achievements. I dunno this kind of makes me feel sad at the moment. I don't think I would have liked being a housewife and dependent on anyone else. I can't trust other people to direct my life, I must have control at all times.
ReplyDeleteI can understand that many women would be frustrated at being only housewives. However, when the tradition nuclear family began to disappear, America really started going downhill. Coincidence? I don't think so. A stay-at-home parent is necessary for proper family stability. This "quality time" crap is just that: CRAP. Children need someone to be there for them every day. They need a parent for all the little day-today things, rather than be relegated to daycare. Kids are sharp. They know the daycare people are being paid and don't really care about them. A weekend trip to Disneyland or the beach may be fun, but they need daily consistency, not just a weekend outing. If a woman doesn't want to be a housewife, then don't have children. We see no reason why single women, or married women with no children should not have a career. When children are involved, their interests come before all else. If a mother is willing to throw herself in front of a truck to save her child, why isn't she willing to throw away a career as well, if it's i the child's best interest? The child's needs come first, then the parent's needs. Now when the children are grown and on their own, things change for the housewife. Most women are in their 40's at that time. It's not too late to start a career. In an NS state, age will never be held against anyone. Today in the USA, professionally speaking, 40 is over-the-hill. Not in an NS state. Anyone who wants to contribute and is mentally and physically able to do so will be allowed - even women - as long as their kids are grown.
ReplyDeleteI don't know anything about parenting. I can't say what would be better for the child. I don't know the type of "mother's love" that is self sacrificing for the sake of the child. I have two dogs that are somewhat like children only they never grow up and are spoiled. This seems more of a grey area for me so I'll leave it to the housewives and those who want kids to decide. I feel out of place posting on this topic since it's turned to motherhood and parenting. My feelings and emotions don't run that deep so I can't speak as a parent or a mother.
ReplyDeleteDan, there are some careers that require lengthy education before entering the workforce. Women in their early 40's would be in their mid to late 40's when they finally graduated college. Some careers take time to build so they need to start earlier. It's not as simple as you may think. For example I haven't hit 40 yet, I've got 2 years to go and I'll be "over the hill" and by the time I was 28 years old I already had 5 degrees and worked as a paralegal. The salary goes up each year as you work to make yourself indispensable, more knowledgable about the firm and more specialized in a certain area of law, like medical malpractice and personal injury (my area of expertise). RN and RNC takes time as well so there are many careers that need to get off the ground earlier and those jobs would be denied to women who had to sit at home with babies. It's a career breaker not a career maker you have here. Back in my college days I always heard of the sacrfices, putting their education on hold because of marriage and kids. I didn't want to be like that but rather I wanted to graduate so I would not let any man near me because we all know what they want from a woman. That just wasn't me.
ReplyDeleteAbout the college: Women should go to college and get their degree BEFORE marriage. Even if they don't wait until they graduate, who's to say how long before they have children? They can put it off for a few years. Besides, I don't think people should have children until they hit their twenties, at least. Most 18 and 19 years olds - especially the males lack the proper maturity for parenthood. They're still kids themselves. College broadens the mind, and makes for a better, well-rounded person. As a college grad, I wouldn't want to be married to some uneducated dingbat. That would drive me nuts!
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It depends on the educational system that Nazis select also. There might a different emphasis on certain study areas. It would be different today anyway because so much as changed and even how we earn those degrees has changed. There are even advanced programs for students in high school to begin college courses and gain a head start. There were but a few hybrid courses when I was in college. The point is you can get the skills you need to get a job in less time, some programs let you shave off a year of a 4 year degree with intense 3 year study. Since the workforce has changed rapidly with turn over, temp to perm is what is used and it's a great way of learning to use all the different skills you have if you have multiple degrees. It's a great way for young people to build up their work experience for their resume'. It's a great way of learning how to adapt to new job environment to become versatile. I thinking getting off to a good start in life is essential for everything that comes after like marriage and kids. As the kids get older and if you are home schooling they will be smarter as you pass down all that you know. Like if you study music as your major then you could teach that your kid growing up. Nursing, the same thing. Interior design, you can do that right in your home with hands on. Sewing, alterations, crochet and all that home making stuff is a breeze for me btw (just so you know) and I also have 6 years classical piano. So all of this little stuff gets passed down at an early age. If at some age the kids are off in Hitler Youth activities at home mom could take courses online and be getting her degree while she's at home. This would not intefere with parenting the child. If you plan it just right then you would be ready to do all that parenthood stuff around age 24. This is of course if you went straight into college by at least 18 if not sooner with the advancement programs. Give yourself at least one or two years in a job before having kids to make sure you like the job and have some sense of job security. Dan I'm sure would proud of most any boy or girl who did this because he would not have to deal with dingbats! lol!
ReplyDeleteOk Dan I am finally getting around to providing the links to what I had mentioned earlier in my posts. This is part 2 to the documentary on Hitler Youth, where it says propaganda films encouraged the cult of youth. Here is the link
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Dan, here is the article I was referring to about the pitfalls of a program to use women to breed. I hope you will read it. http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,446978,00.html
ReplyDeleteSome professions are best done by women. Teaching the very young, for example. In the primary grades, most teachers are women, with a few men. The older the kids become, the more things reverse and in the upper grades men outnumber the women. Because men are better with the older ones? No. It's just the opposite. Women, being more nurturing are better with the little ones. Little ones want someone to kiss it and make it better. Women do this, when a man is more likely to say something like, "Big kids don't cry!"
ReplyDeleteThanks for the links. It will take a few days to check them all out. I didn't publish some of them until I check them out first.
Dan 88!
Dan, I don't send you anything that isn't already on youtube and probably has been on tv on the history channel etc. These documentaries are like you said worded in such a way that makes everything look negative. This I have no control over. My point was if I watch it and got that impression then you know millions of other viewers have seen it to and probably believe every word of it. If anything what do you have to counter that. I'm asking you to debate but rather point me to a different link or location to read something different so I can judge for myself as to who is telling the truth.
ReplyDeleteDan, don't worry there are plenty of motherly types out there, they come a dime a dozen. Lots of women would jump at the chance to sit at home and play patty cakes with the kids.
ReplyDeleteCalling willing mothers "a dime a dozen" is exactly what we believe is wrong with societal attitudes today - especially amongst White people. That, and expenses are the main reasons Whites have only 1.75 children per family, and Latinos have 4.5 children. We're being out bred by, well I won't say enemy, but I will call them our racial competitors. One of the reasons they're winning is because they place a higher value on motherhood than do we. Blacks place less value on it than Latinos, but more than us. Asians born here also tend to place a low value on it, while Asians born abroad value it more.
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Well Dan it's like this, there are many females who dream of being mothers and this is their life goal. Is that phrased better? Perhaps if NS did have the males working as the sole bread winner this would increase the birthrate that you so desire. Again, this is not my area of expertise but I am in agreement with your viewpoint, i.e. giving you my stamp of approval.
ReplyDeleteRocky told me, that women can do as they please, its very important that they stay home, but if they aspire one day to be chairmen they can be. We can hold any position as long as we earn it. a women can work or go to school in the AM while the children are at school.
ReplyDeleteIf you hold this opinion, then why not include it or at least acknowledge it instead of the sole emphasis being on motherhood. This entire discussion would not have taken place if that was included in your no. 5 & 6. Needless to say, when you omit things it is assumed that is doesn't exist. Furthermore when you omit certain things as important as women's higher educational needs and employment then you allienate the working class women. They would assume you expect a reversal.
ReplyDeleteOur point here is a mother of young children CAN'T be a working class, unless you're talking about being a housewife. You cannot juggle a family AND a career properly. Young children belong with their parents, not strangers in daycare.
ReplyDeleteIt does limit a woman's choice, and it will alienate many. However, those who are were never true National Socialists to begin with, so it's no loss.
Women must understand and accept the fact that unlike what the current, failed liberal system teaches, men and women are NOT interchangeable. Each has their own role and purpose in life. The man is the natural breadwinner and warrior, the woman is the homemaker. There will of course be some exceptions, but as a rule, this is how it must be. And like I said, this applies to women who are married with children.
In a National Socialist state, a woman MUST choose between having children and having a career. With few exceptions, you can't have your cake and eat it too. I know that can be frustrating for some, but that's the way it must be.
Dan 88!
Dan this is uncalled for and old fashioned to the hilt. It's demeaning and causes further allienation, suppression and oppression to females everywhere. You are seriously misinformed and I'm here to tell you where you go wrong. For one women have brains and parenting is but one thing they do very well. You cut your nose off to spite yourself by removing women from the workforce. You have lessened productivity and cut your workforce strength in half. You have lost all those women with great minds and destinies to become great. List all the job fields that women are currently in and then think about that great loss. Now you're in the hole. Women do not have to choose because either/or because technology and arrangements can be made to make it a win win situation... yet some insecure men still write it up to be this old fashioned male strutting his stuff. It ain't going to happen sorry to say but you've lost sight of reality and attempted to turn back the hands of time.
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